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Adsense Alternatives: My Performance After Google Adsense

Adsense Alternatives: My Performance After Google Adsense

I recently documented the painful experience I had with getting banned from Google Adsense just a couple of short weeks ago. The response I received from that post was huge with over 400 comments to date…but more importantly I truly felt as though many of you cared about my situation with the loss of income – and that means a lot to me.

As a result of loosing my Google Adsense account, I have been scrambling trying to find some good Adsense alternatives.  Its only been a short while since then, but I wanted to share what I have found that’s working so far, and what some of my plans are down the road for my small niche sites.

First, just to remind everyone how my sites were performing, I want to re-state that I made over $125k last year from Google Adsense. You can watch my 2011 year in review video here.  All of that Google Adsense income came from my niche sites.

On top of that, I obviously made some additional income from sales of Long Tail Pro, and a token amount from affiliate sales on NichePursuits.com. However, since I only started selling the full-version of Long Tail Pro in October of last year, the largest portion of my income was from Google Adsense.

So, it hurt pretty bad to lose that source of income.

However, I have moved on!  I now have alternative ad networks running on all of my niche sites, and they are all at least bringing in some income!  Whereas a couple of weeks ago, they weren’t bringing in anything.

How My Sites are Performing?

So, how are my sites performing with the alternatives to Adsense?  Well, the truth is that I haven’t found anything yet that pays quite as well as Adsense for a General ad network, but I am at least happy to have some revenue back.

Right now, my sites are probably bringing in only 1/3 of what they were bringing in a month ago.

Yes, its not that great BUT I still have A LOT of testing to do and I think I should still be able to bring the income up quite a bit.

Essentially within a couple of days of being banned from Adsense, I went straight over to Kontera and Infolinks (where I already had an approved account) and started placing these contextual links on my sites.  I put Kontera code on about half my sites and Infolinks on the other half of my sites.  This was really done as a stop-gap.  I wanted to start bringing in something as quickly as possible.  Now I am starting to get more creative at looking at alternatives.

In addition on a few of my sites I also tested out Chitika ads, Vibrant Media, GumGum, and SkimLinks. Here is how those ad networks stack up against each other on an eCPM basis.  This tells me how much I am making per 1000 views on my sites.

  • Infolinks eCPM: $10.41
  • Kontera eCPM: $6.37
  • Chitika eCPM: $1.94
  • Vibrant Media: Does not report on an eCPM basis (but I wasn’t impressed with the earnings).
  • GumGum eCPM: $0.44

A quick word about GumGum: this is an image overlay advertising network.  So, this is space that usually does not have any advertising – so this is something that can very easily be added to any other existing in-content advertising that you have.

So, overall Infolinks appears to be the highest paying in-content ad network at this point.  I am going to be moving more and more of my sites over to Infolinks to gain some of this additional revenue.  Overall, they are very simple to implement and use.  The only downside it that you need to get each one of your sites approved.  However, I submitted about 100 sites and they were all approved (minus a couple) within about 24 hours.  So, it wasn’t too bad.

Media.net and SkimLinks

I actually applied to Media.net right away, because I heard so many good things.  However, I have yet to get my account approved.  I waited 10 days (because they say it can take a week for approval), then I emailed them.  They immediately responded and said my application had been denied because my site did not meet the qualifications.  Get this – I applied with NichePursuits.com!  I’m not sure what they are looking for, but I think this is a pretty good site!

However, they did say I could reapply using a different site.  So, I did that a few days ago and still haven’t heard a response.  So, I’m still hopeful to try Media.net out, but they are not real quick at approving my application!

I also have tried SkimLinks out on just one of my sites.  I’m impressed!  Its very easy to implement, like Adsense, and relevant words are automatically turned into affiliate links for various products, services, or information.  Its a pretty cool product.  The best part is that it looks like I made a couple of sales!

Obviously, SkimLinks is not going to be the highest paying way to monetize most sites, but I think it could be a GREAT additional source for many sites.  In fact, you could easily use both Google Adsense (or other networks :) ) and SkimLinks on the same site to maximize the earning potential.

If you are interested in testing out SkimLinks, check it out here.

Future Plans After Google Adsense

Now, I do also want to state that I have spoken with a couple of different CPA networks, and most of my sites just do not seem to be a good fit.  I do have some coupon sites that would work well, but these are very small sites that don’t get much traffic, so overall its not real helpful.

CPA offers tend to perform well for very targeted or specific offers.  Many of my sites are more general and informational, which works great with Google Adsense or other contextual ad networks, but not for specific affiliate or CPA offers.

However, I do still plan on exploring the CPA/Affiliate route to see if I can find a good fit for some of my sites.

Overall, in the future I hope to get approved to Media.net and to test out other networks as well (I’ve applied at a couple others). Unfortunately, I don’t know that its feasible that I will get my income back to where it was with Google Adsense because Google advertisers just pay so much compared to these other networks.  However, I am hopeful to gain a good portion of that income back.  I am going to get the income back from my existing sites as much as possible and may try to sell a few off.

Long term I am looking long and hard at the new sites that I am creating.  Do I want to continue to build lots of small niche sites?  Or do I want to focus on creating a few high quality long term sites?  Or do I want to create some unique products that can help people and then create interesting websites around those products?  These are some of the things that I have to consider as I build my business for the future.  I have not built any new sites in the past few weeks, so I’m taking some time to think things through.  I will be discussing some of the topics in detail over the coming weeks.

Your Thoughts

I would love to hear your thoughts on my review of a few Adsense alternatives.  Do you have other suggestions that I should be trying out?  I look forward to your input!

 

119 Comments for this Post

  1. Vin

    Vin

    Dude…it sucks that your income got hit so hard. It looks like you’re doing a great job at recovering and moving forward with new ad networks.

    Fortunately, I’m reading a lot of new data on the updates that are proving that the recent updates are definitely not the end of niche sites. Check this out:

    http://www.micrositemasters.com/blog/penguin-analysis-seo-isnt-dead-but-you-need-to-act-smarter-and-5-easy-ways-to-do-so/

    Now that we know that we can still rank our niche sites, we just need to find a way to avoid those adsense bans!

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Hey Vin – no way niche sites are dead…far from it! I just have to think of the best way to make money without adsense – for me that may be building one large site (I don’t know) for others it might be micro-sites.

      • Vin

        Vin

        Yeah, I hear ya. My original goal was to get up to a few hundred niche sites and use that income to automate the creation of authority sites. Looks like I’m going to need to split my time between niche and authority sites right now to diversify my risk level.

  2. Matt

    Matt

    Hey Spencer,

    I think your biggest problem (like most of us) is that your passion is creating small, niche sites. So the question is, would you enjoying building authority type sites as much?

    I was able to get approved by Media.net, but haven’t done anything with it yet. The UI is pretty slick.

    Do you know if I can use both AdSense and other networks on the same site or is that something that AdSense frowns upon?

    Thanks!

    Matt

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      I really don’t know if I would enjoy building a larger authority site, I certainly enjoy this site!

      You can use Adsense with at least some other networks. You would need to check each individually however.

  3. Trent Dyrsmid

    Trent Dyrsmid

    Hey Spencer,

    Thanks for keeping us up to date on this fiasco. I’m dry happy to hear that you have been able to recoup some of the lost revenue.

    How are your sites holding up in the SERPs after the penguin update?

    Several of mine went down, while others (with the same link pattern) did not. Weird!

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Penguin is not good for some of my sites! However, other sites are still doing quite well – or some even better. But overall I felt some effects.

  4. Richard Scott

    Richard Scott

    SkimWords looks interesting to me. I like how it brings up price comparisons. Could work well for some sites. I’ll have to test it out as well.

    I removed Adsense off my niche sites and put Media.net on to see what difference that would bring. It was horrible. It brought in not even 5% of the income. I took it off after 4 days and put Adsense back on.

    I have Infolinks on some of my sites right now, but at the rate they are going, with over 2000 visits a month, it would take almost a year to make $100. Not even worth it.

    The only 2 alternatives that I have found to bring in pretty good money are Commission Junction and Amazon. Sometimes those are more than what Adsense pays. Sadly, that’s not the norm though. :)

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Darn, I was looking forward to Media.net – hopefully it pays more than 5% of the income I had :)

  5. Matthew Paulson

    Matthew Paulson

    I’m surprised that InfoLinks is getting you a $10.00 eCPM. I gave them a shot a few years back and Vibrant Media did way better (although, still not terribly impressive compared to AdSense)….

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Hey Matthew – I started with them a few years ago and it was horrible as well. But it appears they’ve gotten a little better over the years.

      • Matthew Paulson

        Matthew Paulson

        Still, $10.00 CPM is way better than what AdSense does outside of a few choice niches.

        • Spencer Haws

          Spencer Haws

          Unfortunately, I am in those “few choice niches” :(

  6. Omid

    Omid

    HI Spencer,

    Thanks for keeping us posted. I like your motivation after such terrible thing happened to you.

    In my opinion a few high quality sites work better than so many small niche sites because of following reasons:

    1 – The income is not “only” based on one source. You can monetize an authority site several ways.

    2 – You focused on a handful of sites and that makes it easier to manage them.

    3 – Once you gained some authority you can sell your own products on them.

    4 – You can find professional writers who are experts in that specific niche and pay them (super) high quality articles for you. You do not have to pay someone to write an article in weight loss and internet marketing niches for you anymore. Your writers will give you articles of really high quality.

    5 – You can make huge lists from your authority sites and you’ll have them forever not matter what.

    As I said, this is just my opinion that after seeing the recent trend of Google, it’d be better to focus on quality instead of quantity.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Keep up the good work.

    ~ Omid

  7. Patric

    Patric

    Hey Spencer!

    I know this won’t help much with the current sites, but for future sites I would switch gears towards creating product related micro sites and using a combination of Amazon and infolinks to monetize with. I have spoke with several people lately that are doing very well with amazon.

    In regards to Media.net I am surprised that you are having such a difficult time with approval over there. I heard you mention them in the post when your Adsense acct was shut down, and decided to apply just in case. So I applied around 5pm and the following morning I woke up to an email at about 7am with approval information and they apologized for the delay, apparently I had forgotten to click the email verification link and they were waiting for that, but said they didn’t want me to have to wait any longer so they just went ahead and activated it. Then they also set me up with account representative and offered me the opportunity to get custom ad codes/size/etc. which aren’t offered through their publishing platform.

    Maybe they prioritize based on industry/niche? I don’t know…

    Anyways, hang in there! I am going to start developing some amazon sites myself and see how they do in the next few weeks.

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Yeah, not sure why Media.net is taking so long for me…

      • Richard Scott

        Richard Scott

        I was approved overnight as well. I believe it probably has something to do with the average monthly page views. The sites that I registered had over 100,000 views. I’m sure they move quickly on those.

  8. Marina

    Marina

    I think you should register another adsense account( or a few). It is the most wise thing to do.
    Media.net reviewing each site ,even you have already 1 approved. So if you have 400 micro niche coupons and vacuum cleaner model number 46598… sites…
    Uh you see what i mean.

  9. Florian

    Florian

    Hey Spencer!

    Have you thought about starting a new company (like an LLC for instance) and getting a new AdSense account for that company? I think you could probably make things work again that way, at least to a certain degree.

    Not sure if you’d want to transfer all of your niche sites to the new AdSense account but you could certainly transfer some of your best earners and build new AdSense sites in the name of that company.

    I am not from the US, nor am I a legal advisor or anything like that but the way I see it this could be worth a try. But you’d want to check twice at least how you can avoid future trouble with Google before you get
    into that.

    Good luck!

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Yes, I have definitely considered that. I currently have multiple business entities, so it wouldn’t be too difficult to form a new one.

  10. Flin

    Flin

    Hi Spence,

    I have had my adsense banned in the past too. Back then , I was a bad guy **Blackhat Stuffs** After taking that route with no stable and constant success, I repented and started building really Good and nice sites .But my problem was that I no longer had an adsense account. So this was what I did : I got a cheap min laptop for less than a $100 , I also got a new internet connection for that computer and then Registered a New adsense account under My “Company Name” Since then , I have been making money from adsense with no problem . Note : Don’t monetize your site only with adsense , add affiliate offers and Amazon .Made for adsense site are hated by the Adsense Team.

    • Ramy Khuffash

      Ramy Khuffash

      So adding different monetization options actually helps? I assumed they wouldn’t like it!

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Great advice and thanks for sharing your experience Flin! I think having a different ip/computer login is a smart move.

  11. Pamela

    Pamela

    Hi Spencer, this is Pamela from Infolinks. I’m so sorry to read that your income and earnings were taken away! I am glad to see that Infolinks is working well for you and that you’re earning well with us. Our team will be happy to answer any questions you might have in terms of optimization or otherwise. Thanks for writing about us, we like to think we’re a great AdSense alternative too!

    Good luck to you,
    Pamela

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Yep, so far infolinks is the best alternative I’ve found. Thanks for stopping by Pamela!

  12. RHC

    RHC

    Spenser

    Very interesting and useful! I dont quite get why cpa offers wont work for most of your sites. Anyway given your various experiences I cant help but think that the real lesson is Long Tail Pro. Create authority in a niche and then sell your own high margin, high quality products to it indefinitely. The 1000 true fans idea. Use niche sites for test marketing and additional cash to cover overhead.

    I look forward to seeing where you go with all this.

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      RHC – that definitely is a lesson, and is something I would LOVE to replicate in another niche. The question is do I have the time and energy to do something like that. Testing out small niche sites is also a good way to test out different markets.

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    artikel ubuntu

    if you have niche on game, you have to try cpmstar. its the best ads for gaming niche. but the approval is a little bit hard. you need site with huge traffic.

  14. Gillian G

    Gillian G

    Hi Spencer – thanks for the update and letting us see your results. I look forward to hearing how you decide to move forward. Gillian

  15. Andre Garde

    Andre Garde

    Hi guys,

    Regarding Media.net, I got approved quickly with a site with less than 100 pageviews, but so far the sites that I have used with it have poor results. The ads don’t seem entirely contextual like AdSense ads are.

    I did also try Infolinks, and it works pretty well but does not pay as much as AdSense. However, I’ve found a really good use for it. There are some niches where AdSense just doesn’t convert even though the advertiser competition is high. I think it’s really dependent on the user demographic and/or the niche topic itself. Anyway, I put Infolinks on one of these sites that I have and it’s working very well. CTR is much, much better than AdSense. It’s not a high earner, but I think I can grab about $10/mo with it. Easily pays for domain + content for the year.

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  17. Bryan

    Bryan

    Spencer, Ever consider Amazon? maybe try and sell some products related to the niches, and thanks to the 24 hour cookie, you can make money on purcheses you dont even promote!

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Yes, I have considered amazon, but the most of my sites don’t have related products on amazon. It would be like if I put an amazon banner here on nichepursuits.com – pretty unrelated, but even so I’d get a few sales I suppose. I have tried amazon on sites that were more product based in the past, but I also made more with Adsense. If I create new sites, with Amazon in mind, I could do much better I’m sure.

  18. jon

    jon

    I think there is a need for an adsense alternative. And you seem like the perfect person to launch something like that. Ad space for microsites. One vote for your next project.

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Oh man – that would be quite the project!

  19. Josh

    Josh

    I tried getting approved for media.net also using our site wsotesters.com and we also got no response. If that site didn’t go through then my other ones probably won’t either, haha. Maybe we just have to keep applying and hope to get the ‘nice guy’ behind the desk who will click ‘approve’. Anyway, I think i’ll test combining skimlinks with adsense like you said. If there’s ways to improve the money, i’m all for it :)

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Awesome, let me know how the combination of adsense/skimlinks goes.

    • David

      David

      Maybe the reason why neither you or Spence are getting accepted is because you are applying with an IM site.
      Try applying with a different niche.

  20. Sarah

    Sarah

    I applied for media.net and was approved quickly. You have to submit each site for approval. For some reason, they denied half my sites. These are not MFA sites. I have good, unique content.

    They are very nice and call you and follow up with you, but since they denied half my sites, I’m not sure about them.

    I’m glad to know you have not lost rankings.

  21. Tiffany

    Tiffany

    Spencer –

    I was waiting to hear how you were going to move forward.

    Have you used VigLink? It’s similiar to Skimlinks but backed by Google. I’ve been using it for a couple weeks and am pleased so far. Super easy to install via a plug-in, great reporting and is monetizing links I would never have thought to. When I made $3 on one site the first day, I was hooked :) http://www.viglink.com/?vgref=95920 (referral link, no obligation to use it, of course)

    Tiffany

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      I had never heard of Viglink – thanks for sharing! I may have to test them out.

  22. Chris

    Chris

    Hey Spencer,

    I have a site with both media.net and adsense ads. Rpm with Media.net: $16.27; with Adsense: $9.41.

    With Media.net, my first two weeks of revenue were slow (mostly $0 days) – you have to wait until it picks up, so if somebody tells you their CPMs were horrendous, I would advise you to be patient and try it for a month or 2.

  23. James

    James

    Great post Spencer about alternatives. Because of what happened with all these people’s accounts getting banned I’ve been testing new ad networks just to see how they earn compared to Adsense. Nothing really compares very closely but I think the worst I’ve tried was Adbrite and Chikita. Those are horrible.

    The best inline text link ad network I’ve tried is Infolinks. They are great! I guess Amazon Associates would be great too if you had products on your website or reviewed them too. I unfortunately do not so that doesn’t help me but looks like another great revenue stream.

    Keep up the good work on testing and sending out the results without us having to do the work to get the free information. Really appreciate that.

  24. Bob

    Bob

    Spencer,

    Actually I’m intrigued to see what would happen if you did just set up new Adsense accounts with new companies. It would be comical and quite telling about Google’s seeming randomness if those accounts worked fine for years to come.

    If I were you, I think I would definitely have to at least give that a try just to see what happens.

    At the same time of course you should keep thinking about diversifying in case the same thing happens again. But it would be very valuable to know if just signing up again with new accounts works and if it did it would alleviate a lot of the problem for now.

    Also I wonder about whether it’s wise to announce it here on your blog. On one hand, keeping silent on it might make sense. On the other I’d still want some way for you to let us know you did it and that it’s working. Maybe some code words? :)

  25. Binaya Aryal

    Binaya Aryal

    I have few questions because i am planning to build some niche sites. But after a HUGE publisher like you got banned, i am little afraid to build these sites.

    Did you mostly use low quality articles, just 1-2 pages of content on your all websites ? Also, you might have used similar themes (made for adsense themes) ! And your CTR must have been bit high. :)

    Its good to know that you are earning at least 1/3rd from other sources. Adsense is number one but it doesn’t care publishers much i suppose.

  26. Tim

    Tim

    You have said that many of your sites are holding up nicely after the Penguin update. Thats great.

    However my feeling is that the dust is yet to settle after the latest sandstorm that Google has unleashed. Many search queries are throwing up absolute junk results.

    The competition analysis of keywords has become difficult. Exact match domains also seem to have taken a hit.

    How does select a niche keyword in this scenario. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and of other readers.

    • Brian

      Brian

      All anyone can really do is speculate on the absurdities related to Penguin, at this point. But, Spencer’s scenario has really shown has asinine Google is. Spencer has said that he created many sites with quality information with the end-goal of being monetized via Adsense with limited potential for other monetization means (because of the type of content). The quality content benefited probably hundreds of thousands (if not, millions) of visitors employing Google’s search functions, probably hundreds (or thousands) of individual advertisers on Google, and ultimately Google’s operating revenues. And the kicker is he (and many other Adsense publishers) would have NEVER worked to put the content they ultimately did out there without the personal motivation of Adsense compensation.

  27. Brian

    Brian

    I hate to be the one bringing it up, but have you considered trying to get the sites involved in Adsense again via some sort of borderline blackhat/alternative identity means? I mean, in spite of the whole “ethics” thing, you did put a lot of work into creating a large amount of content that is potentially beneficial for interested readers, google’s revenues, and google’s advertisers. If you played by the rules in the sense of WORKING over a number of years to create value for others with the end-goal of being fairly compensated for it then I have to question the expected “nobility” of going down without doing EVERYTHING possible.

    If your business model was founded on SE Nuking/Xrumering mountains of autoblogged unreadable spun foreign English as a second language crap content, then scratch everything I just said. lol

  28. RCONNORIII

    RCONNORIII

    Thank you for the post. I was also banned this week, but life goes on. Good luck with all your online pursuits. Have a great day on purpose!

  29. Aj

    Aj

    thanks for this. google banned our social networking site because someone posted nude pics on their profile we immediately deleted the account but 5 weeks later adsense is sill not serving on the site. gonna try those other ones.

  30. Alex

    Alex

    I’m sorry to hear that you got banned from adwords, but this article is an amazing education in the other advertising options available. Thanks for sharing the results of your research!

  31. Michal

    Michal

    I’m just wondering what makes Infolinks so effective? Inline ads appear so intrusive at first glance and most people admit to being irritated by these popout boxes. I honestly can’t recall a single instance of actually clicking one in my life. OK, maybe once.

  32. Stephanie

    Stephanie

    The CPC on on one my site really sucks and I am looking for ways to augment this problem.

    Can we use infolinks side by side with adsense?

    Thanks.

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  35. Dita

    Dita

    Hi Spencer,

    I must have spent at least 2 hours on your amazing website reading your posts. I was particularly touched by the one that announced your loss of the adsense account. I still find it astounding and very scary.

    I was just at the point where I wanted to create a few adsense sites and I came across your Long Tail Pro software and was doing some “investigating”. After reading your story, I may be abandoning the minisite idea but I fell in love with LTP. I have used other keyword and analysis tools but I think LTP is most likely the best. I have purchased the LTP through your site. Hope that helps you a bit.

    I

    I

  36. Jack

    Jack

    Hi Spencer,

    Your website is a great place for newbies like me to learn the Internet affiliate marketing biz. As what u suffered, my AdSense A/C was disabled not long ago and this really shocked me, and made me suspicious of Google’s Adsense program as a safe biz model.

    I’ve read many of your posts and known that you had a big success in this AdSense program, and in some of your posts about the AdSense program, u even strongly suggest this program. However, I have some questions for u after both of us had this disaster with Google. Next just llist my questions as follows:

    (1)In one of your posts (blogs), you mentioned that even if your AdSense A/C was disabled, you can set up a new biz entity with Google AdSense. I don’t know how? I’ve just checked “Google AdSense TM Online Standard Terms and Conditions” and found that on Term 5 “Prohibited Uses”, in clause (x), it says “create a new account to use the Program after Google has terminated this Agreement with You as a result of your breach of this Agreement”. To my understanding, you can’t use AdSense program again for lifetime if you want to use it in your legal name or other legal info of yours UNLESS you use other people’s info to register a new AdSense A/C (a new biz entity). And this is really scary thing for a biz owner if they have many websites like u. If there is one “invalid” click on any of your site, you will lose the whole biz as what u encountered. And it is very easy to get an “invalid” click in today’s Internet world where virus and malwares are everywhere, let alone your possible foes who just want to see your biz going down by intentionaly making “invalid” clicks on your sites (and this is so easy for them to do and impossible for us to control in any means). As a result, purely relying on AdSense poses a big risk for a large online biz owner. Anyway, that’s just my personal opinion. (2)I’m now trying Inforlink service(thanks for your valuable advice in this post of yours) and have a question for you: Can I put both AdSense ads and Inforlink text links on the same webpage if someone wants to use my site for their Adsense ads? At last but not least, thx a million for your great info and help!

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Jack:
      1. A business entity is not you. So a business entity can apply for Adsense.
      2. Yes, you can use both adsense and infolinks together.

      • Jack

        Jack

        Hi Spencer,

        How are you? I have a new question for you and also need your suggestions here! Let me give you more background info to start below.

        After I’ve got your above feedback last time – “A business entity is not you. So a business entity can apply for Adsense”, I recreated a new Gmail account and also used one of

        my new site that was never being used before with any of Google’s programs, applying for a new AdSense account. And to my surprise, I’ve got approved and then I post

        Google’s Adsense ads to not only this new site, but all the old sites that I used to have Adsense ads on — these ads had been taken off after my last (also my first) Adsense

        account was disabled for some “invalid clicks” ((pls see the screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/CvcEE.jpg). This time, I thought it should be a new ‘business entity” for I’m an

        individual, having no company. Just as what I was afraid of, Google has disabled my new Adsense account again today with an email, saying that my “Adsense account has

        posed a significant risk to…” (pls see this pic: http://i.imgur.com/5xTQm.jpg). I swear to God, I didn’t do anything wrong for I’ve just put Google’s Adsense ads on my sites a few

        days ago and all the traffic were very little and of course really natural (organic), and also I got a buck or so income from ad clicks (shown in my Adsense account). As you can

        see here, in the second “disabled” email from Google, they said that my account posed a significant risk to them. I don’t understand what this means!! According to Google’s

        terms, I can place their Adsense ads on any websites, even on the ones from which their ads had been taken off before duo to the some “reasons” they claimed like in my case.

        So I’ve concluded that the real reason for my second “disabled” Adsese account is that after you are disabled by Google from their Adsense program, you’re on their black list

        forever (I guess Google don’t dare to say they have such policy legally for it will definitely destroy their “good’ image!). What I meant is that even if you can create a new

        business entity to get into Adsense again, you might not survive before your first paycheck coming up if they’ve found out that you were ever disabled, or you’re using the old

        sites that they took their ads off from before. I guess that in my case this time, I might have both causes. Anyway, this is just my reasoning.

        So, my question is: What do you think of my above logics? (or what are your thinkings?) For you have more 200 niche sites, if you use them and do Adsens again in a new

        business entity, they might disable you again soon! Again, this is my guess too.

        Base on what has happened to me, could you give some suggestions to me pls? In addition, I’ve alreay tried using Inforlinks and other Adsens alternative programs; but as you

        said in your blog, they are not as good as Adsense in terms of income levels.

        Thanks a million for any of your help in advance!

        P.S. I’ve just purchased your Long Tail Pro tool, and it’s great software!

        • Spencer Haws

          Spencer Haws

          Jack – sorry it happened to you again. They probably linked you to both your old and new adsense account somehow (some contact information, phone number, address, IP address, etc). I don’t know for sure, but perhaps this is the reason.

        • Jack

          Jack

          Spencer, you’re great!

          I just want a little more help here! If they did compare my two Adsense acoounts and thus disabled my account again, how can I set up a new “business entity” with Google Adsense using my legal name, the same living address, ph number and IP address (I can’t change all these things for I’m just a single person doing something at home and have no company)? From the above case, you can see that Google has all the info on me from the past, so I jsut don’t know how to get around here. Or I’m just totally banned from Adsense no matter whatever I do with new application? A lot thanks again!

      • Jack

        Jack

        Spencer,

        Sorry to ask you for this Adsense thing again here! I’ve just rechecked Google’s Adsense policies about the disabled Adsense accounts and found this looking-terriable thing, but I’m not 100% sure; so I’d like to ask your judegment to double confirm on their tough policies. In the quesion of “My account was disabled and my appeal was denied. Is there any way I can rejoin the program? Can I open a new account?” Google listed as samples, they answered like this(just the core part): “Please also note that publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed any further participation in AdSense. For this reason, these publishers may not open new accounts.” So my question for you is: Are the “publishers” mentioned by Google here referring to the biz owners of all the relevant websites where Adsense ads were placed on and then taken off by Google? If this is the case, it seems that you can’t use these old sites for Adsense ads forever – no matter who (other biz entities or publishers) want to put Adsense ads on later. Am I right here?

        • Spencer Haws

          Spencer Haws

          No, its not referring to the websites. There is another portion in their policies that specifically states that.

  37. ryan

    ryan

    Hi Spencer, I have a question or 2,

    Are you using all of the adsense alternatives together on one site, or only 1 ad network per site?

    You say that infolinks is paying you the most, but are you using other networks to fill the vacant ad spaces where your adsense ads used to be?

  38. Warren

    Warren

    Hi Spencer,

    You said that you were getting $10.41 eCPM from infolinks on your sites and that you wee also receiving about 1/3rd of the income you got from Adsense.
    Does this mean that you were getting around $30 eCPM from Adsense for your sites previously ?

    I was really dismayed to hear of your adsense ban, as your approach always seemed so decent and fair and an inspiration to me.

    Thanks,
    Warren

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Yes, it was $30+ ecpm.

      • Zole

        Zole

        Spence, you were robbed!

  39. vicks@top link building services

    vicks@top link building services

    I got my adsense account banned in 2008 since then whenever i tried i got negative reply. However i tried adbrite and infolinks they have done good but i am much happy with adbrite because they pay well. Bidvertiser and chitika have not earn any money for me because they were showing just irrevalent ads. I have also tried media.net but not approved.

  40. Frank

    Frank

    So, even if your account is diasbled fo rinvalid clicks on X website, someone else can use their adsense account on that same website? I would assume they would blacklist that website?

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      No, they will NOT blacklist the site. Its states as much in the adsense policies. In addition, I have given a site or 2 to others to place their adsense code on my old site – the sites are still actively earning with Adsense on their account.

  41. Carl

    Carl

    Hi Spencer…

    I was checking around your blog.. as usual.. and couldn’t find what I was looking for.. so I thought I would just ask..

    If you had a brand new to adsense or your account was suddenly reinstated… what would you do differently in building a new “empire” of sites?

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Better quality themes and less aggressive adsense placements.

  42. Bona Vee

    Bona Vee

    Matt, yes, you can use Google AdSense with other networks. At least, I have AdSense, Infolinks, AdBrite, Amazon and BidVertiser together on one of my websites. So far, none of the networks has complained.

  43. Mike

    Mike

    Spencer, apologies if this is somewhere else in the comments– I did look but didn’t see it– but have you considered reapplying with a family member account or forming an LLC?

  44. Frank

    Frank

    Spencer, you state better quality themes. What would you recomend? I was looking at your article yesterday about the 38 free WP themes for niche websites, with that statement would you still recomend these?

    Your opinion on purchasing a theme like CTRtheme vs creating one from a free WP theme?

    Thanks

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      I am still fine with free themes in general. However, the themes that I mentioned such as Bluesense and Prosense and others that are clearly made for adsense, I would avoid. Those themes use background color that make the ads very difficult to distinguish from the content of your sites. In my opinion they cross the line. So, other free or premium themes are fine depending on their colors are agressiveness of setup.

  45. John S.

    John S.

    Hi Spencer, your eCPM in Infolinks is impressive. Are you using only contextual ads or are using related tags ads too?

    • Spencer Haws

      Spencer Haws

      Just the contextual ads. the eCPM is likely higher because of the niches I have chosen. (High paying)

  46. Nandu

    Nandu

    Nice review.. I added infolinks in my blog.. they approved in a day

  47. martin

    martin

    i was just wondering if you had tried clicksor.com? i have registered but i havent tried it yet wondering if it is any good at all.

  48. floriDAY

    floriDAY

    guess no one knows about PulsePoint, Tribal Fusion or Burst as the backup ad networks for Adsense? I have been an old client of PulsePoint, in past ContextWeb, in past Adsdaq… as a secondary backup for Adsense. I prefer the freedom of choosing the ads I show. With PulsePoint for example, the easiest thing to do is to replace the old network ad tag (set as a Backup Tag) with their Smart Ad Tag. Using this approach, each impression that was previously being exposed to your backup network will now first be exposed to open market at your (!) asked price. Isnt that great?! If it sells you get your asked price for that impression, and if not then it just gets sent to your backup network so they can place an ad into it. By the way Google came last year or so with similar program, I got accepted in. ;-) Currently researching Admarketplace.com and few XML Ad providers for some side extra income streams. If anyone knows – please email me. Only white hats! Cheers!

  49. S.A.Hidayat

    S.A.Hidayat

    Yesterday, my adsense account was also disabled. I thinks it was very bad timing for me because of pay day would come in few days, like you shot the ball and not a goal but just hit the cross bar. However, a couple weeks ago i was also trying to implement ads alternative. I assume this case would be happen to me some time. I already tried Infolinks, Chitika, Intellilinks, and also contexweb. and i got the conclusion about this, Infolinks is the most appropriate alt for my site. But I think, it was very depending of your site’s niche.

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  51. techfoc.us

    techfoc.us

    Nice review.. I will add infolinks in my blog..

  52. DM

    DM

    I like http://www.kiik.me Ad Network.

    • Zole

      Zole

      Do you have an affiliation with them?

  53. matt

    matt

    I’m new to internet marketing and Adsense, etc., so when I submitted my site to Google for an Adsense acct., I assumed it would go through quickly and easily. How wrong I was. So yeah, now I’m hunting around for decent contextual ad alternatives. Thanks for this article. Sorry for the trouble you’ve experienced. Best of luck, and keep us posted!

  54. Zole

    Zole

    Hey spencer, thank you for the great advice on google Adsense alternatives. I have a few websites and have been banned from Adsense. I will definitely try these out. Amazon does work pretty well for me, though.

  55. Fred Sheller

    Fred Sheller

    Hi Spencer, stumbled upon this article after googling for alternatives to adsense. Great to see other people that share my experience, sorry to hear about your problems though.

    Personally I tried a service called Komoona (www.komoona.com) and although I just started it’s looking pretty good so far.

  56. Antonella

    Antonella

    Hello. Very nice info there!

    There are other cool sites that you should try to monetize your blog:

    1.- Adversal: (This is a very good adsense alternative, in fact it displays google adsense ads)
    Link: http://goo.gl/XCrPU

    2.- WHD: (It displays text/banner ads, clicks and number of impressions count)
    Link: http://goo.gl/GhAig

    3.- eDomz: (It displays pop ups, competitive revenue sharing)
    Link: http://goo.gl/GhAig

    4.- Kontextua: (Ads in images, Ads in texts, Banners, Sliders, Related Tags – Better than Infolinks)
    Link: http://goo.gl/iXhIE

    You should try them, they all pay. I personally like them and they are best adsense alternatives.
    Enjoy.

  57. worship

    worship

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  58. SlickR

    SlickR

    Yeah, I used AdSense several years ago on one of my SEO websites and it was great, unfortunately I got banned as well.

    I think the fact that they are too big has allowed them to ban a lot of good publishers, especially since when you have fans they tend to over-click on ads, but I thought it was supposed to filter it out and not ban you.

  59. tudo gostoso

    tudo gostoso

    I a sorry to hear that you got banned from adsense. It seems like a nightmare. It is good to know that are other ad services alternatives. I wrote down the list and i will check it out.

  60. Andy

    Andy

    Hey,

    I was just browsing for info about Vibrant Media, and found your post. My experience with Vibrant Media has been poor as well. I just added Infolinks to my art site today. If all looks good, I’m going to switch.

    Thanks for your insight!

    You spoke of small vs large sites. I have a few of both, and wholeheartedly embrace the large ones. With the little sites your always after search engine traffic, and don’t get many return visitors. Large sites are destination sites that deliver tons of repeat traffic, Also, as soon as you put a page up, it immediately shoots up the Google rankings to draw considerable new search traffic.

    Hope that helps. :-)

  61. Scott

    Scott

    Great article and information. Many people don’t realize they have options beyond Adsense.

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  63. Ailsa

    Ailsa

    Wow, that’s a lot of really useful information. I was suddenly disabled from my Google Adsense account a few months ago, and I had been actively earning with them since 2002. At first, I just couldn’t believe it, was completely shocked, and of course you immediately lose your current earnings. I asked what happened, had one email to just confirm that my account had been disabled. I think Adsense is so big, it can treat (or mistreat) publishers with no recourse. Very upsetting. I have been looking for a good alternative, and nothing comes close to Adsense, but I’ll try Infolinks, see if that works for me. I can’t tell whether the tracking is correct on my cj.com account – is very precarious, does not acknowledge all of my sites, only one, and my Amazon account seems questionable, too. It’s frustrating, right now, and it’s hard not to miss my Adsense account. Thanks for all the great info! Thanks for letting us share in your story, Spencer – I’m so sorry that happened to you, too. Your article helps us feel like at least we’re not all alone dealing with this. Ailsa

  64. Mubashir

    Mubashir

    i am using Chittka and Adsense and getting more money from Chittka than Adsense.

  65. Search Ramble

    Search Ramble

    studying about niche before buying domain is probably a good idea..before jumping in blogging world :D

  66. Dragos

    Dragos

    cpcGalaxy.com is a good alternative for adsense. I use this and reward aproximately $20/day with a 800uv/day website. I recommend this!

  67. jobio

    jobio

    same here my site got denied from adsense although its good

  68. Amit

    Amit

    I am surprised how your site didnt get approved in media.net . I have only one site , gets 200 views daily and is well designed. Its a edu-elearning site. I got approved in a day. And after medianet merged with yahoo & bing, the earning are great. The rpm fluctuates from 1$ -16$ depending on clicks and visitor location. So if you have worldwide traffic, you would earn quite a lot

    • Dan@Social Marketing

      Dan@Social Marketing

      Amit that is not true about worldwide traffic. Medianet only pays for US, UK, CA traffic. Check the terms.

  69. Caio Villa

    Caio Villa

    Hi Spencer,

    Great post.

    I work with small niches sites in Brazil. If in US you can’t find a good adsense alternative, imagine in Brazil rs. It’s not easy, but… I ll to keep looking!

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  73. Leo

    Leo

    Hi Spencer,

    Very interesting topic indeed.

    A Google Adsense banned account, is that the same thing a Google Adsense disabled account?

    Cheers Leo

  74. Leo

    Leo

    Also, once your Google Adsense account is banned or disabled, there is no wayout of this. That’s it?

    Your only option is to apply under a different business account name or LLC or different family name?

    Sounds like Google is ruling with an Iron fist…very dictatorship…I compare Google to Stalin from USSS not only take away your passion but your livelihood as well.

    Cheers
    Leo

  75. Aaron Jones

    Aaron Jones

    I applied for Media.net just a few minutes ago. Don’t know really what to expect but we’ll see. Google banned my adsense account, for what looks like, the same reasons you got banned about a month before you did. I opened a business account in one of my companies names (after reading your suggestions) and they approved it. However, they banned me a couple of weeks later saying after checking their records I would not be a good fit (apparently they matched my name, which I used myself as the business contact, BIG MISTAKE!). So, in a third attempt I’m going to do what you did and completely open one that ABSOLUTELY has nothing to do with me at all and see what happens. My income too was hurt just like yours and it’s really hard to recover, but that’s what I’m doing. Just started a new site July 5 (8 days ago) and I’m already on second page of Google with only 8 of my pages indexed, and get this (no backlinks). (I think I read somewhere up there if I scroll higher. Niche sites are not dead!) I believe this to be a good authority site and want a fresh new adsense account without me attached to it. Interesting website. I have flashbacks reading all your articles, as I’ve been doing affiliate marketing since 2006. I feel your pain.

    The website I’m using here to leave a comment is a site Google sand boxed, but still rank #1 in the Bing network. Social media is a huge help. It still makes money. 125 page niche site. Pretty nice. Maybe people can get ideas from this site instead of copying yours.

    Thanks Spencer for taking your time to make this website. Building niche sites take time. So, I could only imagine what it must be like to monitor this one as well.

    Cheers,
    Aaron

  76. Sabai Dee

    Sabai Dee

    I just wanted to throw my vote in the ring for Amazon Associates program.

    For me, it’s paying more than AdSense, but I think the key is to create a widget to only show the products that are appropriate (or close) to your niche.

    As an added bonus, Amazon still pays you commission on ANYTHING they buy, even if not the product listed on your ad.

    The downside, however, is that they only pay you on sales from the country in which your account is registered.

  77. Sujith Kumar

    Sujith Kumar

    Hey Spencer,
    Have you tried intergi, My adsence account was pending from 6 months and no response from them either so right now I’m using intergi, infolinks and bidvertiser on my site.

  78. Uzochukwu Mike

    Uzochukwu Mike

    The information presented is great but I have a question to ask. I applied for gum gum but was not told to install meta tag as other advertising companies like infolink and VigLink does. I viewed my bog and noticed that their ads are running on my site. I was not even able to login to their site as no password was demanded when was applying. Please help me sort this out as I do not know how to get paid.

  79. Adesanmi Adedotun

    Adesanmi Adedotun

    I think nichepursuits is okay enough to have media.net approval but notwithstanding, with the tried alternative media.net can still be left out for now and more so, media.net don’t really pay just like others. I did have media.net approval but I don’t implement it on my blog

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